Scriptural basis for Tonsuring?

Here's another message I put up on an E-Group a couple of years ago. I found that the question has come up again recently, so it seems relevant. Also, a Deacon did kindly confirm for me that ordinands take a forty day fast (vow) before ordination.
I was a lil mean to the guy i was responding to with this post, but he had it coming ;-P

Dear Mr.---,
Please do some research before you jump to conclusions. You wrote:

>>"...recently I attended a Decon ordination service.SOC Bava
thirumeni cut the decon's hair in Madhaba. I asked many people why
does Bava thirumeni cut hair in Madhbaha. Did Jesus cut Peter's
hair.Did Apostles cut 7 decons in Jerusalem in the 1st century.
NO.Later I found that Malankara Orthodox faith is 70 % Babylonian
tradition imported from Syria..."<<

Since you have probably read the bible from "Gen 1 to Rev 22" many
times, I wonder how you have neglected the following verses:


"Paul stayed on in Corinth for some time. Then he left the brothers
and sailed for Syria, accompanied by Priscilla and Aquila. Before he
sailed, he had his hair cut off at Cenchrea because of a vow he had
taken."
Acts 18:18

"There are four men with us who have made a vow. Take these men, join
in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can
have their heads shaved. Then everybody will know there is no truth
in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in
obedience to the law...The next day Paul took the men and purified
himself along with them. Then he went to the temple to give notice of
the date when the days of purification would end and the offering
would be made for each of them."
Acts 21:23-24,26

These verses make it clear that the Early church had the practice of
cutting off one's hair when making a vow to God, hence the Bishop
cutting off a lock of the deacon candidate's hair.

>>"...Later I found that Malankara Orthodox faith is 70 % Babylonian
tradition imported from Syria..."<<

Really? Quite an interesting "find." Is there any kind of historical
or factual basis for this? By the way, ALL Orthodox churches, not
just the Malankara Church, have the practice of cutting a clerical
candidate's hair before ordination. I suppose all these churches in
various parts of the world have also been influenced by "babylonian
tradition imported from Syria?" Also, the Malankara Faith is the
Orthodox faith, shared not only with Syriac Christians, but with 200
million people worldwide. It'd be interesting to hear what they have
to say about their faith being "imported from Babylonia." If Orthodox
worship is "Babylonian" in nature, then Jewish worship must be the
same, since 70% of Orthodox Liturgical worship comes from Jewish
worship.
I recommend that you conduct some serious research.

ICON Post on "Worship language"

Below is a post I submitted to ICON regarding the importance of Language in worship.


Dear All,
I find this to be an interesting thread, being a member of the "younger generation" that these posts refer to, I feel obliged to comment. So far I see two viewpoints expressed; the first being that we should embrace worship in the English language, and let Malayalam fade away, and the second being that Malayalam must be maintained because it's a part of our "tradition." I can't say I agree completely with either view.

In the case of the former, It's true that many of the 2nd generation members of our Church in America are not fluent in Malayalam. English services should be offered to better help them understand the Liturgy, and experience it on a deeper level. However, the church in America hasn't yet reached a point where a majority of it's members don't speak/read/write Malayalam. Services are necessary in both languages. I'm also greatly in favor of offering Malayalm classes to kids starting at a young age. Certain parishes in my region have implemented this concept with great success. Books like "The Living Sacrifice" should also be encouraged.

In the case of the second view, are we able to draw a distinction between culture and faith?
Ms.--- writes "The beauty of our tradition as "Orthodox" christians is that we keep the traditional worship.." If I had read that phrase by itself, I would be inclined to agree. In context, however, the assertion is a slippery slope at best. Malayalam, or any particular language for that matter, cannot be labelled a "Tradition" of the Orthodox Church. Our Tradition is the Holy and Divine Liturgy that has been entrusted to us by the Lord. The church accommodates the language of whatever culture she finds herself in. If our forebears had entertained such ideas about language being an integral part of the liturgy, we would still be worshiping in Syriac, not Malayalam. I am in no way trying to minimize the importance of knowing one's roots and learning about our heritage, but it shouldn't be warped into ethnocentrism. Another statement that somewhat irked me :"The new youngsters do not know the traditional aspects of our church." I am not entirely sure what "traditional aspects" means here, but I do know some 'youngsters' who would take great offense to this. All our seminarians were youngsters once, and I am convinced that we of the younger generation have a passion and thirst for Orthodoxy that's going to lead the church for years to come.

With all of this being said, I have a question to pose to ICON readers. Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that you live in an area that has no Malankara Orthodox parishes nearby. There are, however, both a Marthoma Parish, and a Coptic Orthodox parish within a reasonable distance. My question is, which would you attend, and why? I look forward to reading your replies.

More Hymns

More random Hymns :)

Liturgical

Makarios Thirumeni

We celebrated St.Dionysus and Makarios Thirumeni's memorial today in church. I was given the responsibility to speak about Makarios Thirumeni. Although my speech was nothing special, I've been told to post it, so it's reproduced below :)

Rev.Achen and Dear Friends,

As I was conducting my research for this speech, reading articles, watching videos, I thought to myself...what can I possibly say that can adequately describe such a man? How can I intimate to you the depth of such a personality as this? I can only try.

The name "Makarios" means "blessed."

His Eminence Dr.Thomas Mar Makarios, was everything a bishop should be. An entrancing orator, an unparalleled historian, and most of all, a loving spiritual father, and friend. He was of the all too uncommon breed of bishop that could forge a deep personal connection with all of his spiritual children. Anyone who's been in his presence can attest to this. The debt that this parish owes to Thirumeni can never be forgotten. When we first started this congregation, on our own, without any aid from the diocese, without any priests, it was Thirumeni who told us not to worry, that we were not alone. It was Thirumeni who was our shepherd and father.

Most anyone would agree that Makarios' Thirumeni's signature was his incredible oratories. His quick wit and sharp intellect were legendary. Thirumeni always provided unique insights on any number of issues he spoke about. He would speak from angles that most of us would never have thought of otherwise, with the ability to communicate the scriptures to others, bringing them to life by demonstrating their relevance to real situations. His grandfatherly demeanor and the obvious sincerity with which he spoke endeared him all the more to us, his children. One specific story Thirumeni told when he visited our parish comes to mind. It's a Jewish version of the story of Jonah and the whale. The story goes that when Jonah was thrown overboard, the whale had it's mouth open, and Jonah fell into the open mouth of the whale. The whale then had a horrible stomach ache for three days, and finally threw Jonah up on the third day. In the story, the whale talks to Jonah, and asks him "Jonah, why did you fall in to my mouth? I had a stomach-ache for three days because of you." Jonah responded "Whale, It's good to keep your mouth shut sometimes."
This story, was of course with the backdrop of how Malayalees like to yell in church, etc.

Thirumeni was, in addition to this, an unmatched historian. He used this intimate knowledge of Church history to aid the church greatly when he was still Fr.K.C.Thomas. He lent his impeccable logic and intellectual prowess to the church's legal team, helping to lead the church to great victories in the supreme court. It was surely this great knowledge of church history that gave way to Thirumeni's comprehensive view of how the church changes:

""The church needs to change - Just like the 4th
century church was not exactly a carbon copy of
the 1st Century church, so also the 21st Century
church cannot be an exact carbon copy of the 1st
century church or the 20th century church.
Change is not a threat. Change is Growth and
growth is change. The church needs to
continuously adapt to the new society."

Only someone who had meticulously studied the history of the church and discovered it's patterns could arrive at such a conclusion.

It cannot be a coincidence that Thirumeni entered into eternal rest on the memorial of his hero, St.Dionysius of Vattasseril. Thirumeni had a rare foresight and courage that in many ways, is reminiscent of St.Dionysius. If St.Dionysius played an integral role in establishing the Catholicate, Makarios Thirumeni played an integral role in protecting it. Like the holy saint, Thirumeni sacrificed all for the love of his church.

May his memory be eternal, Amen.